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		<title>By: The Record Industry Revisited &#171; If not, toss it.</title>
		<link>http://www.psfk.com/2008/03/have-albums-become-irrelevant.html/comment-page-1#comment-13266</link>
		<dc:creator>The Record Industry Revisited &#171; If not, toss it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg Rollett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Rollett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This model makes sense for people with affordable and consistent studio access. Hip-hop artists can pump out songs quickly and the quality is up to par if they are being released online. Why not have fans pay $5/month or $20/year and get access to all your tunes, videos, etc. Great way to keep money in house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This model makes sense for people with affordable and consistent studio access. Hip-hop artists can pump out songs quickly and the quality is up to par if they are being released online. Why not have fans pay $5/month or $20/year and get access to all your tunes, videos, etc. Great way to keep money in house.</p>
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		<title>By: -jG</title>
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		<dc:creator>-jG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trey,

while i agree with you that the advantage of communication is 2.0&#039;s great offering, i must disagree with the premise that 2.0 communication is best used by the musician&#039;s ability to respond and adjust to fan reaction. i wonder about the success rates of musicians, no, let&#039;s go broader, of artists developing material across any medium based on the desires and inklings of mass audiences.  consider any piece of your favorite fine art, literature, film, or (yes) music and ask yourself if having instant feedback and opinion would have helped or hindered the result you have come to appreciate.

you raise important points about time-saving and time-wasting, but i would argue that the anticipation of what&#039;s to come is an essential part of the joy of modern music.  i also believe that the &quot;feedback and feedbag&quot; model you&#039;re advocating would create overexposure, quickly wear out a band&#039;s welcome, and make an attempt to democratize the creative process in an environment in which having a distinct point of view, sound, style, and a healthy dose of experimentation and growth are critical.  i continue to fail to see where in your argument you consider the actual artistry of the musician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trey,</p>
<p>while i agree with you that the advantage of communication is 2.0&#8217;s great offering, i must disagree with the premise that 2.0 communication is best used by the musician&#8217;s ability to respond and adjust to fan reaction. i wonder about the success rates of musicians, no, let&#8217;s go broader, of artists developing material across any medium based on the desires and inklings of mass audiences.  consider any piece of your favorite fine art, literature, film, or (yes) music and ask yourself if having instant feedback and opinion would have helped or hindered the result you have come to appreciate.</p>
<p>you raise important points about time-saving and time-wasting, but i would argue that the anticipation of what&#8217;s to come is an essential part of the joy of modern music.  i also believe that the &#8220;feedback and feedbag&#8221; model you&#8217;re advocating would create overexposure, quickly wear out a band&#8217;s welcome, and make an attempt to democratize the creative process in an environment in which having a distinct point of view, sound, style, and a healthy dose of experimentation and growth are critical.  i continue to fail to see where in your argument you consider the actual artistry of the musician.</p>
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		<title>By: TreyShelton</title>
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		<dc:creator>TreyShelton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the real point here is escaping the album format.  Why should a release be 10-15 songs lasting roughly an hour?

I love the Radiohead album, but I rarely listen to more than 3-4 select song off the album which are usually mixed in to a larger playlist.

If Rahiohead released an EP every 4 months with 2-3 new songs and perhaps a remix or video attached as well, I would be paying those guys $2-3 every 4 months like clockwork. That&#039;s far better than the one time $6 I gave them back in October that has to last them until their next album in perhaps 2009.

The main holdback I see in advising any artist to release an entire album is that if that album doesn&#039;t connect with fans then the band has wasted 1-2 years of market time. The album sales fall, the tour falters, and fans disconnect thinking the artists best days are behind them. If instead they are releasing new material on a regular basis, they can keep a dialog going with their fans. If a certain EP doesn&#039;t connect, they instantly know and can change direction for the next release in 3-4 months time.

Communication is obviously one of the keys to business these days and if you only artistically communicate with your fans every 1-2 years in one big spurt, then you are missing the whole advantage of web 2.0.  EP&#039;s seem like the easiest route for a more regular communication, but if your band can crank out more material then go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real point here is escaping the album format.  Why should a release be 10-15 songs lasting roughly an hour?</p>
<p>I love the Radiohead album, but I rarely listen to more than 3-4 select song off the album which are usually mixed in to a larger playlist.</p>
<p>If Rahiohead released an EP every 4 months with 2-3 new songs and perhaps a remix or video attached as well, I would be paying those guys $2-3 every 4 months like clockwork. That&#8217;s far better than the one time $6 I gave them back in October that has to last them until their next album in perhaps 2009.</p>
<p>The main holdback I see in advising any artist to release an entire album is that if that album doesn&#8217;t connect with fans then the band has wasted 1-2 years of market time. The album sales fall, the tour falters, and fans disconnect thinking the artists best days are behind them. If instead they are releasing new material on a regular basis, they can keep a dialog going with their fans. If a certain EP doesn&#8217;t connect, they instantly know and can change direction for the next release in 3-4 months time.</p>
<p>Communication is obviously one of the keys to business these days and if you only artistically communicate with your fans every 1-2 years in one big spurt, then you are missing the whole advantage of web 2.0.  EP&#8217;s seem like the easiest route for a more regular communication, but if your band can crank out more material then go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smashing Pumpkins might prove that albums aren&#039;t necessary, but that doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re irrelevant.

Would Radiohead&#039;s pay-what-you-want release have worked as well if it was a single or an EP instead of an album? I don&#039;t think so - it would not have seemed significant enough.

In any case, does Smashing Pumpkins even have fans under the age of 24?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smashing Pumpkins might prove that albums aren&#8217;t necessary, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re irrelevant.</p>
<p>Would Radiohead&#8217;s pay-what-you-want release have worked as well if it was a single or an EP instead of an album? I don&#8217;t think so &#8211; it would not have seemed significant enough.</p>
<p>In any case, does Smashing Pumpkins even have fans under the age of 24?</p>
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		<title>By: Smashing Pumpkins Smashing Tradition &#171; MyMediaMusings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smashing Pumpkins Smashing Tradition &#171; MyMediaMusings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jason Gingold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Gingold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I&#039;m saddened by Billy Corgan and others here.  In fact, I&#039;m disappointed in all forms of the watering down the arts.  And whereas, yes, by looking solely at where sales trends go, it is understandable if an artist wants to cater to releasing singles.  But several important facts need to be noted:

1.  singles will sell if they are good.  if there are 10 great songs on an album, they will all sell.  if there are 0, none will.  the same holds true for an EP or a single.  if the music is good, people will want it.

2.  deciding that fans don&#039;t have the attention span for a full length album is the exact mentality that will create a society in which that is true.  it would be like HBO creating commercials rather than television programming, or a playwright writing a sketch.

3.  the most lauded bands on the market today are still heralded for their albums, not a great single.  it is the difference between Flo Rida, who will (IMHO) not be heard of this time next year and Vampire Weekend, whose sophomore album will be highly anticipated.

ok. too much written here.  it&#039;s supposed to be a comment, not an entry.  my bad.

-jG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I&#8217;m saddened by Billy Corgan and others here.  In fact, I&#8217;m disappointed in all forms of the watering down the arts.  And whereas, yes, by looking solely at where sales trends go, it is understandable if an artist wants to cater to releasing singles.  But several important facts need to be noted:</p>
<p>1.  singles will sell if they are good.  if there are 10 great songs on an album, they will all sell.  if there are 0, none will.  the same holds true for an EP or a single.  if the music is good, people will want it.</p>
<p>2.  deciding that fans don&#8217;t have the attention span for a full length album is the exact mentality that will create a society in which that is true.  it would be like HBO creating commercials rather than television programming, or a playwright writing a sketch.</p>
<p>3.  the most lauded bands on the market today are still heralded for their albums, not a great single.  it is the difference between Flo Rida, who will (IMHO) not be heard of this time next year and Vampire Weekend, whose sophomore album will be highly anticipated.</p>
<p>ok. too much written here.  it&#8217;s supposed to be a comment, not an entry.  my bad.</p>
<p>-jG</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate singles and EPs.  I really only purchase albums because I need a bigger picture.  I can&#039;t stand being lured with a single only to later find all their songs sound the same...or worse. 

I agree with Ryan...it&#039;s not like you have to have it one way...i just personally feel a larger scope of work speaks louder than a catchy single or EP.

sPb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate singles and EPs.  I really only purchase albums because I need a bigger picture.  I can&#8217;t stand being lured with a single only to later find all their songs sound the same&#8230;or worse. </p>
<p>I agree with Ryan&#8230;it&#8217;s not like you have to have it one way&#8230;i just personally feel a larger scope of work speaks louder than a catchy single or EP.</p>
<p>sPb</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not like it&#039;s an either/or choice, folks...Billy boy can always still produce an album down the road if he sees fit.  Or manages to muster the &quot;creative chops.&quot;

I think the point of this is not &quot;abandonment of the album&quot;...but rather that fans could very well end up with an increased frequency of exposure to their favorite bands (through, say, quarterly EPs) promoting longer relevancy for the bands and (perhaps) a deeper interaction with each released recording.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s an either/or choice, folks&#8230;Billy boy can always still produce an album down the road if he sees fit.  Or manages to muster the &#8220;creative chops.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the point of this is not &#8220;abandonment of the album&#8221;&#8230;but rather that fans could very well end up with an increased frequency of exposure to their favorite bands (through, say, quarterly EPs) promoting longer relevancy for the bands and (perhaps) a deeper interaction with each released recording.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the Raconteurs&#039;s approach states the opposite.  Albums still have a lot of relevancy today and there are many artists who wish that the consumer wasn&#039;t able to split their albums into individual units.  I would argue that Billy Corigan just doesn&#039;t have the creative chops to put out a quality album anymore, thus his only choice is the EP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the Raconteurs&#8217;s approach states the opposite.  Albums still have a lot of relevancy today and there are many artists who wish that the consumer wasn&#8217;t able to split their albums into individual units.  I would argue that Billy Corigan just doesn&#8217;t have the creative chops to put out a quality album anymore, thus his only choice is the EP.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EPs were always cooler than albums. Except double albums. A good up and coming band can fill EPs without breaking their stride. A good established band can fill a double album. A single album just fits the recording industry&#039;s fill-a-cd-then-tour-for-two-years business model, not fans&#039; desires or musicians&#039; ambitions. Abandoning this is reform, not innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EPs were always cooler than albums. Except double albums. A good up and coming band can fill EPs without breaking their stride. A good established band can fill a double album. A single album just fits the recording industry&#8217;s fill-a-cd-then-tour-for-two-years business model, not fans&#8217; desires or musicians&#8217; ambitions. Abandoning this is reform, not innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: tobiaswright</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobiaswright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, yes. I was thinking a while ago, this is exactly the way things need to go. It keeps the ban relevant, fresh and response from the band&#039;s fans could be reflected in the next release. Rapid development for music.

I actually think in edition to the EP format bands should release singles with a &quot;B&quot; side.

At any rate, bravo to SP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, yes. I was thinking a while ago, this is exactly the way things need to go. It keeps the ban relevant, fresh and response from the band&#8217;s fans could be reflected in the next release. Rapid development for music.</p>
<p>I actually think in edition to the EP format bands should release singles with a &#8220;B&#8221; side.</p>
<p>At any rate, bravo to SP</p>
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